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Innovation in 5G: From Manufacturing to AI w/ Luke Kannike

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Manufacturers are among the first to implement innovations based on technology. Most recently, 5G has provided opportunities for innovation in many industries. Here’s where to keep your eye.

In this episode, I interview Luke Kannike, Business Line Manager, West & Central Region at TÜV SÜD, about the hottest spots in innovation for manufacturers right now.

What we talked about:

  • 5G market trends & concerns
  • Cybersecurity measures for 5G
  • Automobile, mobile phones, medical, & AI applications

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Innovation is all around us. In fact, everyone innovates, often unbeknowns to themselves. Many mistakenly assumed the innovation is either a big capital project, a figurative bolt of lightning that brings inspiration, or the province of some exceptionally gifted person. This is the myth of innovation. But you can innovate as well. You are listening to innovation nation, the podcast where top executives and industry experts are sharing their insights on harnessing the power of innovation. We're here to help you stay ahead of the curve by driving your own innovation. Here's your host, Jasmine Martyr Rosen Hi. Welcome to it, to zood innovation nation. This is your host, Jasmine. More to US soon. Our guest today is look Knicki, who is a business line manager responsible for the west region and to zood and welcome to the show, look. Thank you, Jasmine. I'm delighted to be here. What's great to have you on the show and you know, you've lived in California for a long time and you've been working closely with manufacturers in one of the world's most vibrant places for innovation,...

Silicon Dolly, current can you tell us what trends you're seeing now and what you're outlook is on further developments in the industry? Yeah, so the trends that I'm saying and now, as you're well aware, five G has been quite the hot topic. So as that technology is increasing among some of the manufacturers who are incorporate getting wireless modules, specifically five g modules, the requirement and to speed to market has been something that they're really concerned about, especially with the current state of the market. Now, how will five g change consumers lives? Well, look, five g gives increased bandwidth and the speeds that you know, as technology has been increasing, you know, the gaming industry, so on, and stroll forwards this kind of demanding increase bandwidth and with the connected technologies, you know, with the automotive industry, the vt X, and increase requirement for hot spots. Now, especially with everyone...

...sheltered in place, everyone needs to speed. Yeah, everybody needs to speedious, absolutely, and you know, when it comes to five G, what should manufacturers do? Incorporation fruits full launch? Well, there's quite a few things that are still undecided when it comes to five g. You know, there's the Fr one in the Fr tow while Fr one has been kind of communicated industry wide, Fr two still has some unknown areas which a few of the operators are still working on. So what does the four stand for? That's basically a frequency range. So you have two components of five g. So it's the Fr one Andy Fr too. Okay, when will they be fully operational available in the marketplace? I think, as I mentioned earlier, there's quite a few operators are kind of leading to charge for that spectrum. So there were working on the actual protocol for that five G, the second five g phase. So are there any steps related to cybersecurity that many factors...

...need to take? Yeah, so cybersecurity is kind of twofold. So you have the Iot side of Cybersecurity, which can depend on the end product, especially if you're going to be on boarding your end product on a carriers network. So there's certain levels of cybersecurity is going to be required which is operator driven, and then on the industrial side you've got the machine to machine connection, the connectivity. So that's really where the cybersecurity and then there's obviously the other side, which is assurance program so the vulnerability of certain companies and their network. So as new cyberattacks or being created daily, the assurance program of the stability of their network is going to be critical as well. So when it comes to five g being integrated into the product, will this make, you know, introduce changes to the product development process and the associated testing? I think it will, and this is purely my opinion because it all depends...

...on the intended use of the device. So, for example, if it's a medical device incorporating a five g module, you know that's going to increase the bandwidth of the end device. But sometimes the low power module is also needed the painting on where the device is going to be used. And then certain countries allow certain spectrums. Five G is not allowed global, so a lot of manufacturers will will op for the lower certified modules in a nine hundred you know, eight hundred mega hurts range. Okay, that's very interesting. Can you give us examples of what types of medical products might integrate five g? For example, a nurse Krt that is being used and proximity with a patient and then transferring the medical data over carrier network? For example, if there's a home monitoring system and that home monitoring system is going to go over cellular going to communicate over selling on network. You know, the five gets chipset may be incorporated into the end device and you mentioned that not all countries are going to enable the full spectrum of five G. can you give us...

...examples of some countries? Off the top of my head, I think there's a few countries where that don't allow the five g spectrum and I think off the top of my head I would say Argentina is one that comes to mind, as well as some of the EU countries. I can look at the list fully completely right now, but there are some countries I just can't name them off the top of my head. That's okay, but do we know, for instance, Argentina, what's the driving consideration for their well, it's yeah, it really depends on what the spectrum allocation for that particular country and region, because there's dedicated frequencies for certain devices and certain government communications, you know, GPS, so on and so forth. So their spectrum allocation and sometimes there's some overlap with some of the five g rangers. It's fascinating. You know, we all use all those devices at different levels and they're omnipresent, but we generally do not think the complexity that goes into them. Yes,...

...yes, absolutely, and you know, we all wanted to connect, we all wanted to connect on demand and there's there's a lot that goes into that kind activity. That is absolutely and just string you know, and the industry. It's fascinating. So what can manufacturers do with the you know, offset of broader use of five G so that their tea up to expedite the time to market for their products? I think really really understanding, you know, the end of ice the intended use, because the five g signals are not as strong in all the rural areas. There's certain spots where the signal be stronger than the most. So if you have a product who that's going to rely heavily on five G, then you kind of have to, you know, put some redundancies to go and bounce to the other and be for G or for Glte, so on and so forth. So manufactors have to keep that in mind because the signals aren't a strong even though it's it's hot and it's out there in the market. Even my phone, there's certain spots...

...where the signal is stronger and sometimes it freezes. So there's still a lot of kinks and bugs, I think, still to work out, but manufacturers are staying on top of that and I think from developer standpoint is just, you know, follow the major chip set manufacturers and see what their updates are. Okay, that's very, very useful and interesting. Any other areas for innovation to watch out for that's emerging in the market place? I think the automobile industry, the vt X, which is vehicle to X, which is any type of connectivity, whether within the vehicle outside of the vehicle, and then you're seeing more and more cars with the wireless charging consoles. So that's the cheat charging testing service. So I think those are going to be, you know, really continuing to you're going to see a lot more cars with that technology. Yeah, the recent GM announcement that they're planning, I think it's twenty thirty five, to have all electric manufacturing from readers. Yeah,...

...exactly, and we know who leads that industry right exactly. At of the big trucks that are typical gem and. Yeah, and the infertainment systems and the requirement for in our operability, because you know, the entertainment systems are now more and more digital. So with the cellular you know, need and all the manufacturers you have to make sure that that in our appability is there. And that's when you get in a car and you have a mobile phone and you expect it to work. So that's also another thing that I think is going to be increasing is the interopbability testing. It's interesting how product he is also changes. I went to started that indicated, based on survey results, that using a telephone like a cell phone, or actually speaking to someone is the number seven function right nowes absolutely. I mean the average person is spending probably anywhere from four to six hours on their mobile phones and you know, with the advent of mobile phone, landlines are no longer. You hardly have anybody using a landline, so everything is pretty much done on the mobile...

...phone. Yeah, it's and it's all innovation around us that we kind of take for granted because we see it all the time, but it's that it's a vast change from the social landscape of how we even behaved or operated or lived in TWAS. Exactly exactly. And you know, the mobile phones has really taken over the social social interactability of just a general population. You know, going through any airport, sixty seventy percent of the people sitting there waiting for either an uber outside or even just waiting for their flight to board. They're all on their phones actually, and it's all kind of connected, right, because the manufacturers. Then it brings rise for neat for different types of products, you know, for different functionality people don't even think before exactly exactly. Yeah, and then there's the AI side of the innovation as well, the artificial intelligence for circugnisition and the made for Alexa and made for apple devices...

...that, you know, pretty much different by artificial intelligence. A voice recognition is a huge descendant trend, I would think. I mean it will be a time when people will go to a website and actually do voice search. Yeah, it's coming, absolutely, I can. I can see that happening. You know, our laptops now, if it's Microsoft, has a Quartana to kind of help us through, and then, you know, the Apple Has Serrie. So you know now, from just in the last five years, you can now dictate you cannet. Sorry, Alexa just popped up, as I said her name, but as I was saying, you know, there's there's just a lot more now with a I that's that's coming down the pipeline when it comes to productivity, even on a personal professional scale. So that's unbelievable. As case, important sirie POPs up sometimes when I talk.

It's consistent. Well, really appreciate your joining us to our pleasure sides on trends in innovation, especially in the light of your close collaboration with manufacturers. Yes, thank you very much for joining you. It's my pleasure. Thanks. Thank you. You've been listening to innovation nation. For more, subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcast player or connect with us on Linkedin. Thanks for listening.

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